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BREXIT Pie

19/11/2018

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Now I'm sure you are all bored with all the BREXIT chaos too, I know I am, but I can't stop thinking about it. As from the start, as soon as leave won the vote, I feared that we will either never leave or effectively not be allowed to leave - which is looking more likely by the day. Especially when Mrs May seems to be saying BREXIT means (back my bad deal or we'll make sure there isn't) BREIXT.

Like a lot of people I'm pretty hacked off about this especially given the history of how we got here in the first place. Amazingly this is the first time I've written a post actually about BREXIT, although I probably mentioned it in passing along the way.

See the following links to see how my parents generation were misled when we signed up for the EEC which was supposed to be a free trade area only.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Brexit-EU-secret-document-truth-British-public

https://eutruth.org.uk/fco30.html

Plus how John Major got us to sign up to the Maastricht treaty by threatening to hold a vote of confidence in his shaky small majority government - sounds familiar. 

So for what it's worth my guess is that they'll either force the unpopular deal through somehow or make sure that we don't actually leave as the majority of MP's are Pro EU and don't want a no deal scenario to play out, when they should have used it as their main negotiating tactic and been prepared for going down that route. I reckon they might even use it as an excuse to have another vote which will be worded in such a way as to make sure that remain wins this time - which the EU has had a history of with previous treaties etc.

This piece was also interesting background on this from the Market Oracle.

Finally as a bit of light relief here's a little ditty I re-wrote  - with apologies to Don McLean

Brexit Pie – (Sing to the Tune of American Pie).
A long, long time ago
I can still remember how politics used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance that I could make those people vote
And maybe they'd be happy for a while

But the BREXIT vote made me shiver
With every paper I'd get
Bad news on the internet
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about the Maastricht Treaty
But something touched me deep inside
The day that democracy died

So bye-bye, Democracy Pie
Drove my Rover to Dover, but BREXIT was over
And them good old boys were drinkin' Champagne and Schnapps
Singin' "This'll be the day that UK Democracy snaps
This'll be the day that I die"

Did you write the BREXIT withdrawal agreement, and do you have faith in May above
If the whips tells you to?
Now do you believe in free trade, can democracy save your mortal soul
And can you teach me how to BREXIT real slow?
Well, I know that you're in love with the EU
'Cause I saw you votin' in the commons
You all hacked off your voters
Man, I dig those referendums and blues

I was a lonely teenage Thatcher’s child
With a Tory Tree and a BREXIT vote
But I knew I was out of luck
The day that democracy died
I started singin' bye-bye, United Kingdom
Drove my Rover to Dover, but BREXIT was over.





4 Comments
Des Gibney
19/11/2018 02:43:23 pm

See the following links to see how my parents generation were misled when we signed up for the EEC which was supposed to be a free trade area only.

Jamie, I am afraid you were also misled by Farage and Johnson in voting for Brexit. If I am not mistaking the UKs admission to the EC was vetoed by France the first time round (1961)requiring it to go on a charm offensive to gain admission to the single market, the UK fought to gain admission. TM also needs to cater for the other 48% or so of Brits that voted remain, this seems to be lost on the pro-Brexit constituents.Regards Des

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Jamie link
19/11/2018 03:23:53 pm

Hi Des, great to hear from you - I hope you are keeping well. I guess we were all mislead both in the past and during the BREXIT campaign as both sides were "economical with the truth" shall we say.

It really has been such a divisive issue for political parties over the years and now the electorate as a whole. Personally I blame Cameron for playing politics & floating the idea of a referendum to stop UKIP's advance - then he unexpectedly won a majority.

Any way looks like the remainers might get what they wanted or maybe nobody will get what they wanted. As they say you can't please all of the people all of the time, Mrs May doesn't seem to be able to please any one with her proposal.

Lets just hope for all our sakes they find someone through or out of this mess.

Regards
Jamie

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catflap
19/11/2018 04:07:54 pm

Are you surprised? There clearly hasnt been the vision or leadership to push Brexit through. From the start, all the Brexiteers ducked responsiblity and disappeared when the referendum ended. They all returned to safely carping from the sidelines leaving the difficult task to Mrs May.

It obviously cannot be delivered. Neither the political class, civil service, trade unions and big business want it either.

And now that the ERG seem to be struggling to get their 48 letters. Perhaps a tweak to the "deal" wording with a few abstentions and a few labour votes might get this awful deal through after all ?

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Jamie link
19/11/2018 05:35:15 pm

Hi catflap, thanks for taking the time comment on here again. No I'm not surprised apart from the fact that we actually got a vote for BREXIT. But after that I have been doubtful all along that we would be "allowed" to leave. My guess is we are either facing May's deal either in the current form or maybe tweaked being forced through because they are afraid of the alternatives. Or they use it as an excuse to have another vote and or not deliver BREXIT at all.

I suppose May's deal might at least deliver some stability in the short term, but at what long term cost for our Democracy & independence.

Regards
Jamie

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